From: slug@nks.net [mailto:slug@nks.net]On Behalf Of Mario Lombardo Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 10:06 PM To: slug@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG] Open source Exchange server for linux. (wish I had time for doom3!) On Saturday 16 October 2004 21:44, Chad Perrin wrote: >> Mario Lombardo wrote: > >>> > I had to do this for a client once. It was a while back. In the end, we >>> > decided on IBM's Domino. He doesn't like it nor does he like IBM :( >>> > This may be a somewhat antiquated, but it's a start. I may have already >>> > posted this to the list some months ago: >>> > >>> > Bynari Insight server >>> > http://www.bynari.net/ >>> > >>> > Easygate Workgroup server >>> > http://www.easygate.de/EasyGate/Home >>> > >>> > Novell Groupwise >>> > http://www.groupwise.com/ >>> > >>> > IBM's Lotus Domino >>> > http://www.lotus.com/ >>> > >>> > Samsung SDS Contact >>> > http://www.samsungcontact.com/en/ >>> > >>> > Stalker Communigate Pro 4 >>> > http://www.stalker.com/ >>> > >>> > SuSE Openexchange Server 4 >>> > http://www.suse.com/us/business/products/openexchange/ >>> > >>> > Oracle Collaboration Server >>> > http://otn.oracle.com/products/cs/index.html >>> > >>> > Billworkgroup's Exchange4Linux >>> > http://www.billworkgroup.org/billworkgroup/home >>> > >>> > Kroupware Project >>> > http://www.kroupware.org/ >>> > >>> > PHPgroupware >>> > http://www.phpgroupware.org/ >>> > >>> > ..and don't forget those just mentioned on the list. James Marcinek >>> > (SLUG member) totally loves www.opengroupware.org. I don't know about >>> > the egroupware.org. >>> > >>> > I would love to hear more of your findings and finally what you decide to >>> > go with. This kind technology is really exciting. I remember someone on >>> > (Slashdot or Freshmeat?) complaining how there wasn't any collab server >>> > for Linux and how how many programmers were coding on a myriad of MP3 >>> > players when we needed these. Now, take a look! >>> > >>> > /mario >>> > >>> > On Saturday 16 October 2004 10:39, Bryan J. Smith wrote: >> >>>> >>On Sat, 2004-10-16 at 09:43, Patrick Grantham wrote: >>> >>>>> >>>Rather than avoid setting up a MS box with exchange server for >>>>> >>>collaborative functionality in MS outlook, what are some recommended >>>>> >>>email server packages for linux? I have studied Open exchange from Suse >>>>> >>>and I am sure it's a fine package. Suggestions on an open source >>>>> >>>package? >>>>> >>>I thought there was a "open source project for this. I can't seem to >>>>> >>>find it. >>> >>>> >> >>>> >>There are a lot of "Exchange Replacements" out there, but many are >>>> >>proprietary -- typically at the server storage end. OpenGroupware.ORG >>>> >>(OGo) is the most powerful back-end I've ever seen, supporting >>>> >>everything from Evolution to Palm (i.e., direct access over the network >>>> >>by a Palm device, no desktop needed), while having an open back-end >>>> >>using WebDAV. You'll still need a non-free connector to convert WebDAV >>>> >>to Outlook's proprietary synchronization API, but you have that issue >>>> >>with any "Exchange Replacement." >>>> >> >>>> >>Full discussion: >>>> >>http://lists.leap-cf.org/pipermail/leaplist/2004-March/038122.html > >> >> Outta curiosity: Do you happen to know if any of the open-source >> offerings are taped togethere with Perl? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:44:41 -0400 From: "Bryan J. Smith" Subject: Re: requirement. RE: [SLUG] Open source Exchange server for linux. On Sun, 2004-10-17 at 08:58, Patrick Grantham wrote: >> Thanks for the input. Based on the responses, it seemed to be correctly >> inferred that the client wishes to be able to continue to outlook as the >> email client. As such, any solution needs to have a hook/pipe/connector for >> outlook. Then you will pay for that. There is no free "connector" that provides _full_ server-side storage _and_ scheduling. At best, one of the "iCal[endar]" systems will let you publish free/busy time (which uses standard FTP/HTTP) to/from Outlook. But it never seems to work well for me (especially with certain versions of Outlook). At this time I recommend OpenGroupware.ORG (OGo), because it gives you a powerful storage and scheduling back-end that is completely open. It provides Web, iCal, Palm and WebDAV access (with connectors for WebDAV-to-native for Evolution, free, and Outlook, commercial). OGo seems to do anything any other system can for collaboration, storage and scheduling. A lot of systems either don't have the same features (some are web-only, limited iCal scheduling, etc...), or do, but the storage back-end is proprietary (e.g., MAPI connector for Outlook is proprietary, or things like Bynari use standard IMAP, but store in a format that is not so open). You'll need to by Outlook Connector licenses from SKYRiX, but it's worth it. Otherwise, you can use web-based access. BTW, the GPL'ing of SuSE OpenXchange _lacks_ a lot of the commercial version's capabilities. It's only the Java-based collaboration component and that, by itself from what I've heard secondhand, is not as good as OGo (especially when it comes to administration). Had Novell GPL'd the entire product (including the LDAP/IMAP portions), that would be different. In fact, many sites run the commercial SuSE OpenXchange for the LDAP/IMAP messenging component, and then OpenGroupware.ORG for the Web/iCal/Palm/WebDAV collaboration, storage, scheduling component. - -- Bryan J. Smith b.j.smith@ieee.org - ------------------------------------------------------------------ "Communities don't have rights. Only individuals in the community have rights. ... 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